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shaneh
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adding hydraulics

Hello all...Just sitting here daydreaming  and waiting for this freezing rain to quit and the next 5-10cm of snow to start tonight. My daydream was about adding hydraulics to my older but still loved LM2K. I really like the way my mill is built but hydraulics could make it so much better ( easier for an older fellow). Has anyone ever looked into adding/ adapting  the Lumberpro HD36 hydraulics to a LM2K or do I need to wake up from my dream

Thanks and a belated happy new year to all

Shaneh

Traditional-Too...
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I would also like to understand if it is possible to adapt hydraulics to an LM2000.

 

Even more basic, what is actually needed to do on the motor to get the DC power. I have a Vanguard 23HP and I see those are used on the newer mills also. In looking at some of the online data for the B&S Vangard 23HP, it seems to have a a couple different options on the alternator. I'm not sure if I will need to replace that with a larger one or not, but I'm not exactly sure how to tie into the existing alternator, so that is something I'm trying to figure out.

 

I believe it should be possible since the new mills have the same engine.

 

But the $64k question is what needs to be done? Do you run the alternator to a DC motor which in turn is connected to the hydraulic pump so that when the engine is running, the pump is powered? Or does a belt connect to the motor pulley to drive the hydraulic pump separate?

 

I see Norwood sells a log turning device for the HD36 for about $1200, could be possible to adapt it to my mill. However, considering how Norwood was in the past, I'm not sure they would sell the part to me.blush

 

I don't use the Forestry Forum, but one of the users there named pineywood built a homemade log turning device using hydraulics on a mill and others have fabricated similar. It is a complicated project.

 

So what say ye? Anyone have info that they could help understand this? Mainly in how does a normal hydraulic system on a sawmill like the HD36 operate? Does it use a DC motor connected to the alternator which drives the hydraulic pump? I need to understand the type of levers to stack together, but think those are just 2 way levers, up or down, for each direction. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Alan

Bill
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I'm pretty sure your not going to drive a hydraulic pump off an altinator it will need it's own motor.

Traditional-Too...
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Bill,

Yes, I agree, I was asking if you run a DC motor off the alternatore, which in turn drives the hydraulic pump?

 

Or, does the hydraulic pump have some type of mechanical connections like a belt to the motor pulley?

 

I hope that makes sense. The motor only has the driveshaft/arbor and an alternator. How is that done on the HD36 which has the same engine on them as I have?

 

Alan

Bill
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Alan I think they have a separate motor just to run the hydraulics , the altinator would never put out enough power to run a DC motor the hydraulic motor requires as much power to run it as it puts out.

Traditional-Too...
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Bill, they do have a separate motor for the "auxilary pump", but the "integrated pump" seems to use some type of DC motor if I'm not mistaken.

 

I was looking on SurplusCenter and I see hydraulic pumps that have fittings to accept a motor arbor. They also sell DC motors at SurplusCenter, so I was thinking that might be how the hydraulics are powered. I know there are DC motors that Linn sawmills seems to use the power from the alternator. It was Gary at Linn Lumber that suggested I look into tying into the alternator for power. Doesn't the power on sawmills come from the alternator?

 

Alan

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